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What is the function of worry? Either you can do something about this problem right now or you can't, once you recognize that, it becomes easier to just relax back into the mere awareness of what is actually happening right now. Yeah, we both know Peter Attia. He's a obviously big fan of yours. Yeah, yeah, he's a friend. Yeah. I'm sure we know many people in common. I think so. Tim Ferriss and I would just be guessing, but I gotta think we got 10 friends in common. I think, I think that's right.

Well, let me ask you, because I've always been fascinated with the overlap between Eastern and Western philosophy, and I tend to find that they sort of circle around the same truths. And when one of them finds something that works, it seems that the other within a few centuries, sort of comes up with the same idea or similar insight in their sort of own way or own metaphors. But meditation is so interesting because there doesn't really seem to be a strong Western counterpart. I guess maybe prayer is one, but, but why do you think that is it is such a magical thing that works for so many people, but there's not really a super long Western independent tradition of something similar.